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green, all things relating to the environment and our energy policy how optimistic are you that we're going to find a solution to this in the coming years, which is to say the next four? >> you know, in hearing the president speak and reading -- it's i guess confused as an observer and i love listening to you but trying to parse out what it means because what it goes back to for me, in the election, when politicians were separating ow the economy from birth control i was like, no, it's the same. when we hear, we have to see what's economically sound, and when we talk about climate change and energy, didn't i just hear, and don't we think the future is green jobs and what that means? so kind of stepping back, makes me feel frustrated because i feel like isn't that the direction we need to be going in and how do we convince americans that, yeah, you know what, prices at pump have to go up if we want to have them not? >> you can ask somebody who has lost a business in coney island or in the rockaways if this is about jobs and growth. >> right. >> there are people who are going to take
't have a silver spoon. he had a grew up with a single mom and even in his environment being that he grew up a lot with white people and things that have nature. >> lincoln lost his mother at a young age. very close to his stepmother who in certain ways had similarities. >> losing rays. lincoln ran for congress and lost. same as barack obama. but yet, persevered and continued with the focus, to move on forward and understanding still peoplecrit stizing you but you're ready to take that criticism because you want to take the next step. sometimes if you're sincere, you don't know right away what the right thing is to do. you've got to think about it and ponder and walk around. as president obama did surely even when he went after osama bin laden. he didn't know. he said i've got to sleep on it. what's the right thing to do here. sometimes you've got to make the right decision and sometimes you may make the wrong decision. >> there's a preference for come tem plative president. sort of weigh in on this for me. >> i think that certainly the falling to your knees at a time of conflict that com
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